Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Brier (3rd nomination)

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 23:50, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Tom Brier

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Third time nominated, still no evidence of notabillity. WP:BEFORE search only brought up questionable sources. I would also recomend salting. NW1223<Howl at me•My hunts> 21:57, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. NW1223<Howl at me•My hunts> 21:57, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and California. Shellwood (talk) 22:09, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
• DELETE and Salt Yet again. No new content, sources or reason for notability for inclusion. Why does this article keep being approved for main space? Enough already. Maineartists (talk) 23:02, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
• Delete and Salt - I wonder if the same person keeps re-creating the article. Mr. Brier seems to have gained some fans but he has no reliable and significant media notice. The description of his tragic accident almost looks like a dishonest attempt to add a little more material to his thin biography. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:23, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

  Tom Brier is a notable name in both the ragtime community and he is a highly respected composer. He is no doubt niche, hence the absence of his presence from media. He is comparable to James Scott or Joseph Lamb. The context of his tragedy is absolutely not an dishonest attempt to add material to his "thin" biography as has been suggested by DoomsDayer520— it is added because he is a composer who, by having his legs shattered in a tragic car accident, cannot compose. The extraordinary effort to remove him from Wikipedia is as intertwined with petty technical pedantics as it is with an ignorance of Brier's ragtime scholarship. GuardianH (talk) 03:53, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

The reason we are ignorant about Brier's ragtime scholarship is because none of us can find any independent sources in which it was discussed and analyzed for informed readers. If such sources exist, you are welcome to list them here. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:50, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

• Delete and SALT Per Doomsdayer520's sentiments in the reply above. Not having the coverage by independent, reliable sources to establish that a subject passes notability guidelines is not really "pedantics". Best, GPL93 (talk) 21:12, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

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